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General Running Discussion

Author: KNODDIE Rank: Sapphire Poster Location: Perth
Date: 9:06am WST, July 20th 2007

The place to discuss running, ask questions, post tips and advice.

SW 104kg (12.11.06)
CW 81.2
GW 83kg (Achieved 22.4.07)
Goals: Rottnest Full Marathon Oct 07.
It's The End Of The World As We Know It (And I Feel Fine)
http://www.c25k.com</i

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Author: STELLABELLA Rank: Emerald Poster Location: Balmain, NSW Date: 9:22am WST, July 20th 2007
Hi Rob How do I join this one? I'm afraid I still dont quite understand this group thing but I'll work it out eventually! What did you call this group... I'll go and look for it! Stella H: 172cm SW: 90.5kg (01.01.07) CW: 75.3kg (08.07.07) MG 74kg (healthy BMI!) GW : 65kg "I'm gonna be 'bootylicious' and stay that way goddamnit!"
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Author: KNODDIE Rank: Sapphire Poster Location: Perth
Date: 9:44am WST, July 20th 2007

Hi Stella

Because I set this up as a public group, you have joined automatically. There's nothing further to do. The group is called running.

Rob

SW 104kg (12.11.06)
CW 81.2
GW 83kg (Achieved 22.4.07)
Goals: Rottnest Full Marathon Oct 07.
It's The End Of The World As We Know It (And I Feel Fine)
http://www.c25k.com</i

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Author: MOVINGFORWARD Rank: Diamond Poster Date: 9:54am WST, July 20th 2007
I have a question... by the way this was a struggle for me just to ask this question LOL I am not good with new things. Finally found my way around it. My ultimate dream is to become a runner, right now I jog here and there. What's the best thing to get me started? Also am I kidding myself, I am no where near goal weight? Initial weight - 91kgs Starting weight with ck - 83kgs Current weight - 77.1kgs Goal weight - 58kgs A box of chocolates can provide your total daily intake of calories in one sitting. Isn't that handy?
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Author: TALICCA Rank: Sapphire Poster Location: Brisbane
Date: 10:06am WST, July 20th 2007

Your ultimate dream is definitely achievable!

Most of us have been in the same spot as you at some point, and whatever you do, do not let your weight get in the way of your dream! My recommendation for anyone struggling with the transition from walking to running is to jump into the Couch to 5K program. There's a link and some podcasts out there somewhere, can't remember off the top of my head but I'm sure someone out there can supply the details. Its a great program, and designed to walk you through the transition (pun intended

).

Personally, I don't believe in the term "jogging"... To me, "jogging" is for people in the 1980s with big hair, g-string leotards and leg-warmers

If you're moving faster than a walk, then you're running, regardless of the speed. Credit where credit is due eh? Good luck and keep checking back with us!

Cheers,
~~Nikki (http://talicca.blogspot.com)
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"You might be on the right track, but you'll get run over if you just sit there"

SW: 93kg
CW: 52.8kg
GW: 50kg
H: 160cm

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Author: JEYBIRD8 Rank: Gold Poster Location: Logan
Date: 10:12am WST, July 20th 2007

Jen, definitely try the Couch to 5K program - its fantastic!!! I can't recommend it enough!

cheers,
Ali.
:frog:

SW:86
CW:71
GW:65

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Author: KNODDIE Rank: Sapphire Poster Location: Perth
Date: 10:14am WST, July 20th 2007

Jen, I've started a special Couch to 5k thread in this group: http://www.calorieking.com.au/community/forums/posts.php?forum_id=158&thread_id=87722

Also, see www.c25k.com for full details on the program.

You can definitely do this. Many, many people have gone before you and achieved this goal.

Rob

SW 104kg (12.11.06)
CW 81.2
GW 83kg (Achieved 22.4.07)
Goals: Rottnest Full Marathon Oct 07.
It's The End Of The World As We Know It (And I Feel Fine)
http://www.c25k.com</i

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Author: MOVINGFORWARD Rank: Diamond Poster Date: 10:17am WST, July 20th 2007
What's the 5K involve? Thanks Nikki, I used to "Run" lol years ago when I was thin and young hehe... I have been thinking about really getting back into it for a while now. I am not making excuses but it's been hard this winter, the kids and I have been sick constantly.... and what is podcast EDIT: cool thanks Knoddie, walked away and came back to finish post so didn't see yours nitial weight - 91kgs Starting weight with ck - 83kgs Current weight - 77.1kgs Goal weight - 58kgs A box of chocolates can provide your total daily intake of calories in one sitting. Isn't that handy?
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Author: WANTTOBESLIM Rank: Emerald Poster Location: Adelaide
Date: 10:17am WST, July 20th 2007

Jen - C25K is the go. Don't be afraid, join us!! I'm up to Week 7 now.

Rob/Knoddie has set up a thread in the Running Group for it. There's also a thread in the general forums. Have a look. LEt us know if you need any help. There's a website, free podcasts to help you along. Plus those of us who have either done it or are in the process of doing it.

Good luck! You CAN do it.

Michelle
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:queen:

SW: 86.6kg
CW: 82.1kg
CW last week: 82.8kg
GW: 65kg
****MINI GOAL - 80kg by July 31****

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Author: MOVINGFORWARD Rank: Diamond Poster Date: 10:34am WST, July 20th 2007
I am a bit slow and don't get it all, have looked at the c25k site... what now? I do need help Michelle lol Initial weight - 91kgs Starting weight with ck - 83kgs Current weight - 77.1kgs Goal weight - 58kgs A box of chocolates can provide your total daily intake of calories in one sitting. Isn't that handy?
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Author: LEONARDO Rank: Sapphire Poster Location: Brisbane
Date: 10:40am WST, July 20th 2007

I have a question...

How much impact do you think that losing weight has on your running performance? While losing weight you're theoretically eating 500 calories less each day than if you were maintaining. So does this lack of energy make you run slower?

Two days before a fun run I eat back all my exercise calories (normally I don't) and the day before I eat maintenance calories. This is to make sure I have energy for the race, don't know if it makes a difference though...

Leo

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SW: 114kg (01/06/2005)
CW: 87kg
GW: 84kg

S. Waist: 118.5cm
C. Waist: 98.5cm
G. Waist: 93cm

Height: 186cm

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Author: STELLABELLA Rank: Emerald Poster Location: Balmain, NSW Date: 10:44am WST, July 20th 2007
Interesting thought Leo... I've never thought about the calorie consumption part of it only the "if I'm thinner I'm lighter and therefore might be able to run faster/further due to less weight to cart around"! Stella H: 172cm SW: 90.5kg (01.01.07) CW: 75.3kg (08.07.07) MG 74kg (healthy BMI!) GW : 65kg "I'm gonna be 'bootylicious' and stay that way goddamnit!"
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Author: LEONARDO Rank: Sapphire Poster Location: Brisbane
Date: 10:48am WST, July 20th 2007

For those who find the C25K confusing, I did it a different way which follows the same principles but is much simpler. No distances to worry about, simple time increments, so you don't need a track or a podcast to help you. I originally found it in Men's Health years ago, others may like it so here it is:

You should be already walking at least 30min, 3 days/week. If not, add a week of walking at the start.

Week 1: Run 2 min, Walk 4 min, Repeat 5 times
Week 2: Run 3 min, Walk 3 min, Repeat 5 times
Week 3: Run 4 min, Walk 2 min, Repeat 5 times
Week 4: Run 5 min, Walk 2.5 min, Repeat 4 times
Week 5: Run 6 min, Walk 4 min, Repeat 3 times
Week 6: Run 7 min, Walk 3 min, Repeat 3 times
Week 7: Run 8 min, Walk 2 min, Repeat 3 times
Week 8: Run 9 min, Walk 2 min, Repeat 2 times then Run 8 min
Week 9: Run 13min, Walk 2min, Repeat 2 times
Week 10: Run 14min, Walk 1min, Repeat 2 times

Run 30 min! Repeat!

Leo

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SW: 114kg (01/06/2005)
CW: 87kg
GW: 84kg

S. Waist: 118.5cm
C. Waist: 98.5cm
G. Waist: 93cm

Height: 186cm

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Author: MOVINGFORWARD Rank: Diamond Poster Date: 10:52am WST, July 20th 2007
THANK YOU Leo, that suits me !!! Initial weight - 91kgs Starting weight with ck - 83kgs Current weight - 77.1kgs Goal weight - 58kgs A box of chocolates can provide your total daily intake of calories in one sitting. Isn't that handy?
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Author: ORLANDO Rank: Diamond Poster Location: Perth
Date: 11:19am WST, July 20th 2007

Interesting question Leo and something I've been thinking about lately. Up until now losing weight hasn't seemed to affect my running - apart from making it easier I suspect as there's less of me to lug round! And really I don't think I would have lost all the weight I have if I hadn't taken up running.

However, just recently I've been running more than ever before(averaging at least 40km per week and increasing slowly as I train for a half marathon) and I've noticed that I'm hungry all the time and really craving carbs like I haven't for a long time. I've also kept up my other exercise and I do 3 or 4 cardio classes as well as 2 or 3 Pump classes per week. As a result I've reassessed my priorities and decided that at least until after the half, I'm not going to worry about my weight. I decided it was stupid to be doing the amount of training I'm doing on that sort of calorie deficit. I'm not going all out crazy and eating whatever I want but I've changed my profile to maintain instead of lose and I'm definitely eating back all my exercise calories. I'm also not going to weigh myself over this time. If I notice my clothes getting much tighter I may reassess where I am but otherwise my priority for the next few weeks is having enough energy for my running.

BTW, I never used C25k either(didn't know about it) but I did something vaguely similar when I took up running, based on my ipod. I walked initially, then tried running a little bit every time I went for a walk. Once I could manage about 5 minutes I created a mix on my ipod that was all songs about 4 minutes long and used that for my programme. I'd run around the lake near my house(3.5km) and I increased like this:

Week 1: run one song, walk one song, rpt until right round the lake
Week 2: run two songs, walk two songs...
Week 3: run two songs, walk one song...
Week 4. run three songs, walk one song...

You get the picture. By the time I was up to about five or six songs I could make it right round the lake and after that I just gradually increased until my regular run was about 5km. I stayed at that for a while and started increasing once I entered some fun runs. Now I've got my Nike ipod thingy I go by distance not "songs" but it was a good way to get started. I had read similar programmes to the c25k but wasn't exactly sure how to time myself without looking at my watch constantly. If I'd known about the podcasts I probably would have used them.

HW 86kg
GW 70kg - Nov 06
new GW 65kg
CW 66.2kg

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Author: STELLABELLA Rank: Emerald Poster Location: Balmain, NSW Date: 11:57am WST, July 20th 2007
I used c25k up to week 6 at which point I made it to 30mins (but not 5km)... after that I had the confidence to just keep pushing myself. As of Sunday I've run 8km. I put it down (partly) to having a good running mix on my ipod... but I'm not sure if anyone else would appreciate my mix bce musical preference is a pretty personal thing! Stella H: 172cm SW: 90.5kg (01.01.07) CW: 75.3kg (08.07.07) MG 74kg (healthy BMI!) GW : 65kg "I'm gonna be 'bootylicious' and stay that way goddamnit!"
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Author: LEONARDO Rank: Sapphire Poster Location: Brisbane
Date: 9:56am WST, July 21st 2007

I do think some of my improved running speed is due to having less fat to carry around. I was 7.5kg heavier when I did my first fun run. There are even calculators on the web that estimate how fast you could run at different body weights.

Leo

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SW: 114kg (01/06/2005)
CW: 87kg
GW: 84kg

S. Waist: 118.5cm
C. Waist: 98.5cm
G. Waist: 93cm

Height: 186cm

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Author: KNODDIE Rank: Sapphire Poster Location: Perth
Date: 10:05am WST, July 21st 2007

Leo, i think you're doing the right thing with your eating before a race.

It's important to watch the fuel level though. For a while I wasn't eating enough cals, carbs especially and I started to feel a bit crook, and not very strong.

I reckon just see how the body feels, and adjust accordingly.

Rob

SW 104kg (12.11.06)
CW 81.2
GW 83kg (Achieved 22.4.07)
Goals: Rottnest Full Marathon Oct 07.
It's The End Of The World As We Know It (And I Feel Fine)
http://www.c25k.com</i

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Author: BELBEL Rank: Diamond Poster Location: Perth/Fremantle area
Date: 7:30pm WST, July 22nd 2007

Because I have found the winter so hard with my training for the C2S, I have decided to go the 4km and run the whole distance. I will treat it like a race and get a pb out of it. I think that this is the wisest choice for me to make at this point in time.

HW: 74
SW:68
CW:65.9
GW:50
Huff and puff and stuff.

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Author: BADWOLF Rank: Emerald Poster Location: Melbourne
Date: 9:03am WST, July 23rd 2007

I made a snap decision to start running after my BF told me he thought I didn't have the right shape to be able to run (big boobs). Being stubborn, I decided if he didn't think I could, I would prove him wrong :p

I did it all based on time increments. I don't have fancy technology like HRMs or my own treadmil, so I just headed to the local sports field.

At first I could run for about 5 mins and would have to stop, so I simply decided to increase my time every day by one or two minutes. By the end of the second week I met my first goal of being able to run for 20 minutes non stop. So then I set another goal for doing 30 mins and then 40 mins and so on.

Once I hit the 20 min mark, I started to look at speed as well. My initial running speed was barely what you could consider actual running. I did occasionally try it out at the gym and that gave me a good idea of my average speeds.

At the moment, I can do 40 minutes at around 8km/hr. That includes a couple of hills and stairs to raise the heart and challenge me.

So it's possible to do it when overweight, and when you've got enormous boobs and when everyone says you can't. I'm short and in the obese BMI category.

Just take it at your own pace and push yourself a little bit more every time you do it.

It'll definately help with the weight loss too. I've not lost massive amounts, but I've started to lose much more since I started. Nowadays I try to run 5 days a week when I can (although recently it has only been 3-4 times).

BW

If I wanted to hear the pitter patter of tiny feet, I would go and buy my kitty some booties.

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Author: BELBEL Rank: Diamond Poster Location: Perth/Fremantle area
Date: 2:52pm WST, July 23rd 2007

My tready is broken, but will be fixed soon. I prefer the gym and outside, but when I have sick kids at home I can begin to feel a bit defeated with running. I am again at the point of not having done any regular exercise for a few months. I am hoping having even a cheap tready at home will help me run.

HW: 74
SW:68
CW:65.9
GW:50
Huff and puff and stuff.

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Author: PRUTAYLOR Rank: Chatter box
Date: 2:58pm WST, July 23rd 2007

treadmills are wonderful in the winter coz you can still keep in the comfot of your home whilst burning off the unwanted fat. i found it fantastic esp since i was self conscious about running in the public.

SW: 76.5kg :bang:

CW: 63.0 kg
GW: 60kg

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Author: DLMB Rank: Sapphire Poster
Date: 6:50pm WST, July 23rd 2007

On the subject of the c25k, i used the podcasts here
http://www.ullreys.com/robert/Podcasts/podcasts/podcasts.html
They tell you when to run, when to walk etc. All set to music, with a few motivating comments. "you're doing great" :smile1:

SW 94
CKSW 90
CW 80
GW 74

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Author: WANTTOBESLIM Rank: Emerald Poster Location: Adelaide
Date: 7:55pm WST, July 23rd 2007

Can anyone suggest a mix of good running songs - ie popular music with the right beat for running. I'm not too much of a tech head to search or put stuff together but I would really love to have a song list that I can compile - any suggestions? I don't mind the Robert Ullreys music, but it's just annonymous bland music - I love music from actual known artists! Like what's on the radio - does this make sense?

Michelle
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:queen:

SW: 86.6kg
CW: 82.1kg
CW last week: 82.8kg
GW: 65kg
****MINI GOAL - 80kg by July 31****

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Author: KAMARU Rank: Emerald Poster Location: Illawarra
Date: 7:35pm WST, July 24th 2007

This is a bit embarrassing, so I didn't want to start a new thread....

Here goes.

I started "running" last week and have found that I am having trouble with "wobbly bits".

I am very small in the bust area - so no problems - it is actually around my stomach where I seem to carry all my weight.

Everything seems to move up and down far too much and when I increased my intensity this week my back is starting to hurt - I suspect from the extra movement around the middle rather than the running itself.

I have been working on my abs quite a lot, doing hovers and crunches every other day, do a few classes a week (step mostly) and my weight program.

Should I hold off on running until I have lost weight (stats below)?

Has anyone else had this problem and found a solution?

Yours in embarrassment,

Kathy

Height: 169cm
Start Weight (Sept 2006): 94kg
Start at CK (May 2007): 86kg
30th June: 84.5
Goal Weight: 71kg

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Author: STELLABELLA Rank: Emerald Poster Location: Balmain, NSW Date: 7:52pm WST, July 24th 2007
Don't hold off! Running is cardio and cardio burns fat so by running you may reduce the wobble... crunches and hovers etc will build up your abs but if you dont get rid of the fat you won't be able to see the muscles you're creating... well that's my take on things anyway and I'm no expert! What do you wear to run in? Perhaps you need to wear a tight singlet to keep the wobble under control... and if you arent comfy just wearing that you could wear it under a t-shirt or something looser (might get hot in 2 layers tho). I find that legging help too... not the hipster ones but the ones the come up to around your belly button... same deal - if its tight it keeps everything in. Lucky you have small boobs...mine arent huge compared to some (DD) but I wear an underwire sports bra and then a sports crop thats deliberately 1 size too small... does the trick tho Don't know how helpful that was... I might be way off track but I'm sure someone will come up with something better Stella H: 172cm SW: 90.5kg (01.01.07) LW: 75.3kg (08.07.07) MG 74kg (healthy BMI!) GW : 65kg "I'm gonna be 'bootylicious' and stay that way goddamnit!"
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Author: KNODDIE, CalorieKing.com.au
Date: 7:53pm WST, July 24th 2007

Michelle, I reckon you need to select your own music...what I like, you probably won't...but here is my Running playlist. I mainly use it in races, and play other stuff and podcasts during training runs. I've tried to put them in an order so they suit what I need to do at the time. Some slower songs at the start so I don't go out too hard etc.

Bittersweet Symphony The Verve
Good Dancers The sleepy Jackson
Raining Again Moby
Orange Crush R.E.M.
Beating Like A Drum Eskimo Joe
I Will Follow U2
Bohemian Like You Dandy Warhols
Ride The Vines
Good Vibrations The Beach Boys
Somebody Told Me The Killers
Kick INXS
Space Truckin' Deep Purple
Paranoid Black Sabbath
Fire The Jimi Hendrix Experience
It's the End of the World As We Know It (and I Feel Fine) R.E.M.
The Boys Are Back In Town Thin Lizzy
Surrender Cheap Trick
A Whisper Coldplay
Love Shack The B-52s
Jumping Jack Flash The Rolling Stones
We Used To Be Friends The Dandy Warhols
Call Me Blondie
Yellow Coldplay
Black Dog Led Zeppelin
Jenny Was A Friend Of Mine The Killers
Enter Sandman Metallica
Black Fingernails, Red Wine Eskimo Joe
Rockin' In The Free World Neil Young
Paint It Black The Rolling Stones
Gimme Some Lovin' The Spencer Davis Group
Wild Thing The Troggs

SW 104kg (12.11.06)
CW 81.2
GW 83kg (Achieved 22.4.07)
Goals: Rottnest Full Marathon Oct 07.
It's The End Of The World As We Know It (And I Feel Fine)
http://www.c25k.com

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Author: ORLANDO Rank: Diamond Poster Location: Perth
Date: 10:13pm WST, July 24th 2007

Michelle, I agree with Rob - you need to choose your own music as only you know what you like and what works for you.

My actual running playlist is over 300 songs so too long to post here, but FWIW here's the list I've put together for races. It's songs that I find particularly motivating, usually because they're nice and fast and generally fun. As you can see, my musical tastes are fairly varied - a lot of JJJ but with some cheesier stuff thrown in.

Sarah - Eskimo Joe
Blue Orchid - The White Stripes
Laid - James
Express Yourself - Madonna
Fig Jam - Butterfingers
Lady Marmalade - Christina Aguilera, Lil' Kim, Mya & Pink
I Don't Feel Like Dancing - Scissor Sisters
Take Your Mama Out - Scissor Sisters
Music - Madonna
Ta Douleur - Camille
The Bold And The Beautiful - The Drugs
LDN - Lily Allen
Gold Digger [Feat. Jamie Foxx] Kanye West
Somebody Told Me - The Killers
The Denial Twist - The White Stripes
Love Me Or Hate Me - Lady Sovereign
You're Pretty Good Looking (For A Girl) - The White Stripes
This Year The Mountain Goats - The Sunset Tree
Yo Mama - ButterFinger
Into The Groove - Madonna
Black Betty - Spiderbait
Don't you want me baby Human League
Gimme! Gimme! Gimme! (A Man After Midnight ) - ABBA
Pretty Woman - Shankar Mahadevan
Hung Up - Madonna
Pump It - Black Eyed Peas
Rock This Party (Everybody Dance Now) - Bob Sinclar & Cutee B featuring Dollarman, Big Ali & Makedah
This Is the World We Live In - Alcazar
Voodoo Child - Rogue Traders
U + Ur Hand - P!nk

This isn't in any particular order. When I run I like the songs on shuffle so I get surprised. And my power song is Lose Yourself by Eminem.

HW 86kg
GW 70kg - Nov 06
new GW 65kg
CW 66.2kg

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Author: POSSUMCHOPS Rank: Gold Poster
Date: 5:41am WST, July 25th 2007

I discovered the other day Girlfriend by Avril Levine is a good one, the beat is spot on for me.

Possumchops.

"You might not be able to wear your favourite pair of pants if you gain a few pounds, but you can always wear your favourite pair of shoes." Shoe collector Sara Vass

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Author: TALICCA Rank: Sapphire Poster Location: Brisbane
Date: 5:50am WST, July 25th 2007

Kathy, don't be embarassed

We runners face all sorts of problems and you can rest assured that you won't be the only one to have experienced something! I actually had that problem myself when I was down to even around 60kg, and what worked for me was compression. I wore tight bike pants pulled high up to my waist to hold everything in, and had a tight singlet on over the top to hold everything the bike pants missed. I then wore a looser shirt over the singlet, and while I wasn't terribly concerned myself, you could wear shorts over the bike pants as well. Good luck with it :kiss:

Cheers,
~~Nikki (http://talicca.blogspot.com)
___________________________________________
"You might be on the right track, but you'll get run over if you just sit there"

SW: 93kg
CW: 52.8kg
GW: 50kg
H: 160cm

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